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	<title>Comments on: Down with exports!</title>
	<link>http://www.26econ.com/down-with-exports/</link>
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	<pubDate>Sun, 12 Oct 2008 20:07:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Lord</title>
		<link>http://www.26econ.com/down-with-exports/#comment-2612</link>
		<dc:creator>Lord</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jan 2008 21:14:42 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.26econ.com/down-with-exports/#comment-2612</guid>
		<description>But it does mean they are less likely to be restless.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But it does mean they are less likely to be restless.</p>
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		<title>By: aaron</title>
		<link>http://www.26econ.com/down-with-exports/#comment-2600</link>
		<dc:creator>aaron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jan 2008 03:40:02 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.26econ.com/down-with-exports/#comment-2600</guid>
		<description>Matt: Good points, thanks. Trade surpluses do make sense if you think of it as savings. In that case I can understand why a trade surplus might be good for Japan (because they expect a shrinking/ageing population in future), but I don't understand why it would be good for China.

Lord: Jobs are also an output measure. People working more or harder doesn't mean that they are happier.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Matt: Good points, thanks. Trade surpluses do make sense if you think of it as savings. In that case I can understand why a trade surplus might be good for Japan (because they expect a shrinking/ageing population in future), but I don&#8217;t understand why it would be good for China.</p>
<p>Lord: Jobs are also an output measure. People working more or harder doesn&#8217;t mean that they are happier.</p>
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		<title>By: Lord</title>
		<link>http://www.26econ.com/down-with-exports/#comment-2599</link>
		<dc:creator>Lord</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jan 2008 22:07:01 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.26econ.com/down-with-exports/#comment-2599</guid>
		<description>So why do developing countries differ?  Because they want to import jobs, not goods.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So why do developing countries differ?  Because they want to import jobs, not goods.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt Nolan</title>
		<link>http://www.26econ.com/down-with-exports/#comment-2594</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt Nolan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jan 2008 19:13:24 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.26econ.com/down-with-exports/#comment-2594</guid>
		<description>I think people view exports and bad and imports as good in the same way that people view savings as better than consumption, and if this is how people see it, it sort of makes sense.

If we view the country as an individual, then exports is its income (as it provides a claim on real resources), and imports is its consumption (as it involves receiving real resources).  In this case any wish to increase exports while not changing imports is the same as wishing that the country saved more.  

In this sense you need exports to pay for imports.  If exports exceed imports then you are saving, if imports exceed exports you are borrowing.  In the long-run these will need to be equalised, so whatever the country is doing depends on the nations preferences.

I'm not sure that slashing exports and consuming the goods domestically would necessarily slash GDP.  GDP is consumption + investment + exports - imports.  If we cut exports and increase consumption the impact on GDP is ambiguous.  However, if firms are exporting the good, the value of the good must be higher on the world market than in the domestic market, so GDP would fall but only by the difference in intrinsic values between the world and domestic markets.

Ultimately, if a country is running a trade surplus or deficit it is because it is willing to save/borrow now.  I find it weird that developing nations are the ones saving while developed countries are the ones borrowing - surely poor countries expect to have higher incomes later and so should borrow to smooth their income over time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think people view exports and bad and imports as good in the same way that people view savings as better than consumption, and if this is how people see it, it sort of makes sense.</p>
<p>If we view the country as an individual, then exports is its income (as it provides a claim on real resources), and imports is its consumption (as it involves receiving real resources).  In this case any wish to increase exports while not changing imports is the same as wishing that the country saved more.  </p>
<p>In this sense you need exports to pay for imports.  If exports exceed imports then you are saving, if imports exceed exports you are borrowing.  In the long-run these will need to be equalised, so whatever the country is doing depends on the nations preferences.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not sure that slashing exports and consuming the goods domestically would necessarily slash GDP.  GDP is consumption + investment + exports - imports.  If we cut exports and increase consumption the impact on GDP is ambiguous.  However, if firms are exporting the good, the value of the good must be higher on the world market than in the domestic market, so GDP would fall but only by the difference in intrinsic values between the world and domestic markets.</p>
<p>Ultimately, if a country is running a trade surplus or deficit it is because it is willing to save/borrow now.  I find it weird that developing nations are the ones saving while developed countries are the ones borrowing - surely poor countries expect to have higher incomes later and so should borrow to smooth their income over time.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Walker</title>
		<link>http://www.26econ.com/down-with-exports/#comment-2588</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul Walker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jan 2008 01:10:22 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.26econ.com/down-with-exports/#comment-2588</guid>
		<description>I agree that the The Armchair Economist is one of the best "pop econ" books. But as I argue &lt;a href="http://antidismal.blogspot.com/2008/01/armchair-economist.html" rel="nofollow"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt; you may have missed the bet bit, chapter 9 on the Coase Theorem.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree that the The Armchair Economist is one of the best &#8220;pop econ&#8221; books. But as I argue <a href="http://antidismal.blogspot.com/2008/01/armchair-economist.html" rel="nofollow">here</a> you may have missed the bet bit, chapter 9 on the Coase Theorem.</p>
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		<title>By: Kerry</title>
		<link>http://www.26econ.com/down-with-exports/#comment-2585</link>
		<dc:creator>Kerry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jan 2008 19:25:31 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.26econ.com/down-with-exports/#comment-2585</guid>
		<description>The Undercover Economist does a pretty good job at explaining your argument too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Undercover Economist does a pretty good job at explaining your argument too.</p>
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